What's Your Radical Candor Story? 5 | 1
Welcome to season 5 of the Radical Candor podcast! On this episode, we have a montage of Radical Candor, Manipulative Insincerity and Obnoxious...
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Brandi Neal Feb 8, 2023 12:01:13 AM
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On this episode of the Radical Candor podcast, Kim, Jason and Amy discuss absentee management and quiet firing. While these two things can feel the same to the person experiencing them, the thing that makes them different is the intention behind the behavior. Quiet firing happens when managers allow employees to have toxic experiences at work as a way to get them to quit. On the other hand, a more pervasive problem is well-intentioned bosses who practice absentee management. They’re that ghost boss who is rarely seen or heard from by their direct reports. What can you do if you work in this kind of environment? Listen now to learn more.
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On our last episode, we talked about micromanagement. Today we’re going to talk about the other side of that coin — absentee management and quiet firing.
While these two things can feel the same to the person experiencing them, the thing that makes them different is the intention behind the behavior.
According to Gallup, “Quiet firing happens when managers allow employees to have truly toxic or miserable experiences at work as a way to squeeze them out. It's a form of gaslighting.” Or as we might say at Radical Candor, a form of Manipulative Insincerity.
We have another Office Space example: Milton.
Milton was actually let go from his job, five years prior to the events in the movie, but no one ever told him and he kept turning up to work. Due to a glitch in the payroll system, he also kept getting a paycheck. After the glitch is fixed, Milton still shows up for work despite not getting paid. His workspace is repeatedly relocated until he finally finds himself in the basement next to the boiler room where he plots his revenge.
While Milton’s treatment was intentional, a more pervasive problem is well-intentioned bosses who practice absentee management.
One of the most common mistakes bosses make is to ignore the people who are doing the best work because “they don’t need me” or “I don’t want to micromanage.” Ignoring somebody is a terrible way to build a relationship.
Some management bloviators will advise you simply to hire the right people and then leave them alone. Dick Costolo, Twitter’s CEO from 2010–2015, explained succinctly how crazy this advice is, as Kim detailed in Radical Candor.
“That’s like saying, to have a good marriage, marry the right person and then avoid spending any time with them. Ridiculous, right?” he exclaimed.
“Imagine if I went home and told my wife, ‘I don’t want to micromanage you, so I’m not going to spend any time with you or the kids this year.’”

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Episodes are written and produced by Brandi Neal with script editing by Amy Sandler. The show features Radical Candor co-founders Kim Scott and Jason Rosoff and is hosted by Amy Sandler.
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