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Brandi Neal Sep 27, 2023 12:01:31 AM
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On this episode of the Radical Candor podcast, Amy and Kim talk about performance improvement plans (PIPs). When used correctly, performance improvement plans can be valuable if there is a commitment to help the employee improve. However, PIPs are often weaponized by frustrated managers who want to get rid of an employee who is struggling. Listen to find out how to tell the difference.
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It is a manager’s job to both help each person on their team develop and grow in their career, and also to manage the performance of each person.
Performance development is often informal, forward-looking, and tied to an intrinsic desire on both the part of the boss and employee to improve, grow, and succeed. Sometimes however, despite regular performance development conversations, someone might be struggling in their role. When this happens, a manager might implement a performance improvement plan as part of the performance management process.
According to SHRM, “A performance improvement plan (PIP), also known as a performance action plan, is a tool used to give an employee with performance deficiencies the opportunity to succeed. It is used to address failures to meet specific job goals or behavior-related concerns.”
While there are leaders who use PIPs correctly, others use them as a path to your being fired.

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A performance improvement plan (PIP), also known as a performance action plan, is a formal tool used to give an employee with performance deficiencies the opportunity to succeed. It addresses failures to meet specific job goals or behavior-related concerns. A PIP should only be used after regular performance development conversations have already taken place — it should never be the first time an employee hears they're underperforming. When used correctly, a PIP is a genuine commitment to helping someone improve, not a step toward firing them.
Performance development is typically informal, forward-looking, and driven by a shared desire on the part of both manager and employee to grow and succeed. Performance management, on the other hand, involves more formal processes with consequences — like PIPs or performance reviews. The two are often conflated, but they shouldn't be. If a company is genuinely committed to ongoing performance development, there should be no surprises when review time comes around, and a PIP should feel like a natural next step — not a shock.
A good-faith PIP is specific, time-bound, and sets metrics that are neither too easy nor unattainable — it gives the employee a real opportunity to fix the problem. A weaponized PIP, by contrast, is used by frustrated managers who have already decided they want to let someone go and are using the PIP as procedural cover. Key red flags include vague or impossible success criteria, no prior feedback, and a lack of genuine support from the manager or HR during the improvement period.
If you're writing a PIP for the first time, ask someone from HR or a manager who has written one before to help you. It's critical to get the success metrics right — they should be clear, specific, and achievable within a defined timeframe. The goal is to give the employee a genuine path to improvement, not to set them up to fail. Treating the process with care reflects the Radical Candor principle of caring personally while challenging directly.
Sometimes an employee is struggling not because they lack ability, but because they're in the wrong job. As a manager, part of your responsibility is to consider whether someone's skills might be better used in a different role. This requires genuine curiosity about each person as an individual — their strengths, motivations, and career goals. Recognizing a role mismatch and helping someone find a better fit is an act of Radical Candor, not a failure of management.
No — and if they are, that's a sign the performance development process broke down somewhere. A well-functioning team has ongoing, honest conversations about performance, so by the time a formal PIP is introduced, the employee already understands the concerns and expectations. The Radical Candor framework emphasizes giving real-time, specific feedback so that no one is blindsided during a formal review or improvement plan process.
Three ways to put this into practice.
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