Radical Candor Podcast

Podcast Season 5, Episode 28: Identify the Elephant

Kim, Jason and Amy answer a listener’s question about how to identify the elephant in the room when a direct report’s performance isn’t meeting expectations. Kim and Jason roleplay how to be kind and clear when delivering feedback to someone who’d rather not hear it. While it can be tempting to default to Ruinous Empathy, the team explains why it’s important to double down on the challenge directly axis of Radical Candor instead.

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Radical Candor Podcast Episode: Identify the Elephant in the Room

Elephant in the room: Radical Candor Podcast

 

A listener wrote in with a question: 

Hi there,

I have a direct report who’s the same age as my dad (71) and given the phase that he is in his life, I wouldn’t put him in the “growth” quadrant. Personally, he’s a nice person and has a good heart but has trust issues, issues with female authority figures (my predecessor was also female, although she was only about 10 years younger than him and he had issues with her), and does not trust management despite being a manager himself. 

His intentions are good and he cares personally for his direct reports however it is to the detriment of the organization (or not in the best interest of the organization). His performance if I’m being honest is poor and I’d put him in the “poor performance, no signs of improvement” quadrant

He falls asleep in meetings and colleagues often approach me about it. I have spoken to him about looking after his health however he has this mindset that “If I retire, I will fall off the perch” — that’s because most of his friends have passed shortly after retiring. 

I feel, his motivation to come to work is “something to do” and also part of his routine, however, I don’t believe he is performing at his level nor should he be working full time. 

Every time I approach this topic with him, he gets defensive (another example of trust issues) and thinks I want him to retire despite my saying there are so many options we can consider such as reduced workload, part-time, etc.

Can you please advise alternative methods of approaching this situation?

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Elephant in the room: Radical Candor podcast

  1. Name the elephant in the room, if you refuse to acknowledge that it’s there, you can’t solve the problem.
  2. Make a list so you can be clear about what the performance issues are. Commit to sharing these with the other person. 
  3.  Look for an opportunity to be on the same team. When you leave the conversation. Be clear about how you’re going to be working together collaboratively to help this person resolve a performance issue. 
  4. Get clear in your mind about whether you’re having a development conversation or a performance management conversation. If you haven’t had a development conversation, do that before you start any sort of formal performance management process.

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The Radical Candor Podcast is based on the book Radical Candor: Be A Kickass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity by Kim Scott.

Episodes are written and produced by Brandi Neal with script editing by Amy Sandler. The show features Radical Candor co-founders Kim Scott and Jason Rosoff and is hosted by Amy Sandler. Nick Carissimi is our audio engineer.

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