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Edited By Brandi Neal. Flat organizations are often touted as the future of efficient work. But when you remove managers and collapse hierarchies, you’re not flattening the org—you’re flattening people. Radical Candor offers a more nuanced, humane, and effective approach.
In the modern workplace, the flat organization is often framed as a cure-all: fewer layers, less bureaucracy, more speed. It’s an appealing idea, especially for leaders under pressure to do more with less. But as appealing as it may sound, flattening an organization without a clear structure in place rarely results in greater innovation or efficiency.
In fact, the opposite often happens.
“The myth of the flat organization is that the fewer layers there are between the most junior employee and the CEO, the better,” said Radical Candor author and cofounder Kim Scott. “But if you just play with the math, that means every manager has too many direct reports. And no manager can do what good managers do in that scenario.”
The belief that reducing layers automatically improves productivity has driven many tech companies to eliminate managers under the guise of streamlining. But what’s left behind often isn't a nimble, empowered workforce—it’s an overwhelmed, unsupported one.
“If you have 30 direct reports, you're spending 60 hours a week just managing. That’s burnout. And if you don’t spend that time, you’re not really managing at all.” — Kim Scott
Radical Candor co-founder and CEO Jason Rosoff points out that a key reason people resist hierarchy is the misconception that managers merely serve as gatekeepers of information. When information bottlenecks at each level, it can feel like a game of telephone—by the time messages reach the front lines, they’re distorted or irrelevant.
But flattening the structure isn’t the answer.
“When you eliminate hierarchy without solving for how information flows or how decisions are made, you’re not fixing the problem. You’re just creating different ones,” Rosoff said.
Scott emphasized that a lack of clear managerial bandwidth leads to inefficiencies that flat structures don’t solve—they exacerbate them. “If you have 30 direct reports, you're spending 60 hours a week just managing. That’s burnout,” she said. “And if you don’t spend that time, you’re not really managing at all.”
Collaboration vs. Command and Control
Hierarchy itself isn't the enemy—bad hierarchy is. The real question isn’t whether to flatten or stack—it’s what kind of hierarchy you’re building.
“Some hierarchy is absolutely necessary if we’re going to collaborate at scale,” Scott said. “But is the hierarchy a collaboration hierarchy, or a dominance hierarchy? That’s what matters.”
A collaboration hierarchy, as modeled at Google during Scott’s tenure, involves stripping away unilateral power from managers—things like hiring, firing, and bonuses—while preserving the authority to make and influence decisions through relationships, not fear.
“Authority is different from power,” Scott explained. “When I say strip away power, I mean removing the ability to make decisions that impact others without involving them. That builds inclusion. It makes decisions more transparent.”
When organizations flatten abruptly—often after layoffs—the results can be damaging and hard to detect. Managers with too many direct reports become unable to keep track of performance, leading to favoritism or reactive decision-making.
“In theory, flattening should reduce the return on politics. But in reality, it increases it,” said Scott. “The people who get ahead are the ones who can best paint a rosy picture, not necessarily the ones doing the best work.”
The consequences? Regrettable attrition, missed opportunities, and innovation bottlenecks.
“You start losing your best people, and you don’t even realize it’s a problem,” she added. “That’s a silent failure.”
Rosoff pointed to decision-making as a critical function that suffers when organizations flatten carelessly.
“If managers are managing 20 or 30 people, they can’t possibly involve everyone in the decisions that affect them,” he said. “That’s where things break down. Either they over-delegate and become absentee managers, or they micromanage and become bottlenecks.”
The solution isn’t to eliminate hierarchy, but to make decision-making processes explicit, inclusive, and fact-based.
“Push decisions into the facts,” Scott said, referencing A Primer on Decision Making by James March. “When decisions are made without involving the people they affect, it creates a psychological sense of lost personhood. That’s damaging.”
If your organization has already flattened—and many have—it’s not too late to adjust. Scott and Rosoff recommend reintroducing structure through informal leadership, rotating responsibilities, and supporting potential future managers.
“Let’s say you have 20 direct reports. Create a world in which 5 of them act as unofficial team leads,” Scott suggested. “Have them manage small groups, and rotate that role quarterly. That gives people a taste of leadership and builds compassion across the team.”
This rotational model mirrors the tiger team structures Rosoff experienced at Khan Academy, where small, cross-functional teams would form and dissolve based on goals.
“Giving everyone the experience of leadership builds a deeper understanding of what it takes to collaborate effectively,” he said. “Even if someone struggles, you learn where to support them—and they learn where they need growth.”
In Radical Candor, Scott lays out a framework for effective management that includes meaningful one-on-ones, clear communication, and ongoing development. But none of that is possible when a manager’s bandwidth is stretched thin.
“You need 10 hours a week to do the work of managing well—5 of that just for one-on-ones,” Scott said. “If you have 10 direct reports, that’s 20 hours a week. You won’t have time for anything else.”
Organizations must be realistic: management takes time. And effective management isn’t optional if the goal is sustainable innovation and high-performing teams.
The term “efficiency” gets thrown around frequently in leadership circles. But efficiency for what?
“If you don’t define what you’re trying to do—whether it’s innovation, better decisions, or faster execution—you can’t just assume fewer layers will get you there,” said Rosoff. “It’s like looking at an empty glass and pretending there’s nothing in it, when in fact, there’s still air. We’re oversimplifying.”
Instead of aiming for flatness, organizations should aim for clarity, connection, and collaboration. That’s the kind of efficiency that matters.
If you're a leader navigating a flattened organization, don’t panic. Start small.
Create informal leadership opportunities to redistribute load.
Strip away unilateral power, but preserve authority through influence and trust.
Prioritize decision-making processes that include the right people at the right time.
Encourage open communication that flows across, not just down.
“Every manager should know information three levels deep,” Scott said. “Great ideas come from everywhere, and communication shouldn’t follow a hierarchical path. Anyone should be able to talk to anyone.”
Ultimately, a truly collaborative organization isn’t one with no managers. It’s one where managers are empowered to lead with Radical Candor: caring personally while challenging directly—and doing so at a sustainable scale.
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Flat organizations sound appealing — fewer layers, less bureaucracy — but they often create more problems than they solve. When managers have too many direct reports, they either burn out trying to manage everyone or effectively stop managing at all. Kim Scott points out that with 30 direct reports, a manager would spend 60 hours a week on one-on-ones alone. The result is unsupported employees, missed performance issues, increased office politics, and the silent loss of your best people.
A dominance hierarchy concentrates unilateral power at the top — managers control hiring, firing, bonuses, and decisions without involving the people affected. A collaboration hierarchy, as Kim Scott observed at Google, strips away that unilateral power while preserving a manager's authority to influence decisions through relationships and trust. The goal is inclusion and transparency: decisions are made with the people they impact, not just handed down to them. Hierarchy itself isn't the enemy — bad hierarchy is.
When managers oversee 20–30 people, they can't realistically involve everyone in decisions that affect them. According to Jason Rosoff, this leads to one of two failure modes: over-delegation (absentee management) or micromanagement (bottlenecking). Kim Scott recommends pushing decisions into the facts and ensuring the right people are included at the right time. Excluding people from decisions that affect them creates what Scott calls a "psychological sense of lost personhood" — which is deeply damaging to morale and performance.
It's not too late to rebuild structure. Scott and Rosoff recommend introducing informal leadership roles to redistribute managerial load. For example, if you have 20 direct reports, identify five who can act as unofficial team leads for small groups — and rotate that role quarterly. This gives employees a taste of leadership, builds empathy across the team, and surfaces who needs development. Cross-functional tiger teams, like those used at Khan Academy, are another model: small groups form around goals, then dissolve — keeping collaboration dynamic without adding permanent layers.
According to Kim Scott, good management requires roughly 10 hours per week per manager — with at least 5 of those hours dedicated to one-on-ones alone. If a manager has 10 direct reports, that's already 20 hours of one-on-one time per week, leaving almost no room for anything else. This math makes clear why span of control matters: organizations need to be realistic about how much time real management takes if they want sustainable, high-performing teams and genuine innovation.
Counterintuitively, fewer management layers don't reduce politics — they amplify them. When managers are stretched too thin to track individual performance closely, decisions about who gets ahead become less merit-based. Kim Scott explains that in these environments, the people who advance are often those who are best at "painting a rosy picture" rather than those doing the best work. Without clear managerial visibility and accountability, favoritism and reactive decision-making fill the vacuum that structure left behind.
Three ways to put this into practice.
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