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In this episode of the Radical Candor podcast Kim and Jason answer listener questions and share their experiences about being a boss who's younger...
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Building a team is hard. But as we’re seeing now during the Great Resignation, failure to spend time building and investing in a team can have disastrous consequences. In order to be successful, this means developing people on both steep and gradual growth trajectories, or as we like to say at Radical Candor, people in both rockstar mode and superstar mode. On this episode of the Radical Candor podcast, Kim, Jason and Amy discuss how to balance growth and stability by developing people who are in both superstar and rock star modes.
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In order to build and sustain a great team, you need to understand how each person’s job fits into their life goals. You need to get to know each person who reports directly to you, to have real, human relationships — relationships that change as people change.
When putting the right people in the right roles on your team, you’ll also have to challenge people in a way that will impact not just their feelings but also their income, their career growth, and their ability to get what they want out of life. This means developing people on both steep and gradual growth trajectories and clearly understanding the difference between the two.
To keep a team cohesive, you need people who are in rock-star mode and superstar mode. People in rock-star mode are solid as a rock. Think the Rock of Gibraltar, not Bruce Springsteen. They love their work. They have found their groove. They don’t want the next job if it will take them away from their craft.
People in superstar mode, on the other hand, need to be challenged and given new opportunities to grow constantly.

“Steep growth” is generally characterized by rapid change — learning new skills or deepening existing ones quickly. It’s not about becoming a manager — plenty of individual contributors remain on a steep growth trajectory their entire careers, and plenty of managers are on a gradual growth trajectory.
Nor should steep growth be thought of as narrowly as “promotion.” It’s about having an increased impact over time.
Gradual growth is characterized by stability. People on a gradual growth trajectory, who perform well, have generally mastered their work and are making incremental rather than sudden, dramatic improvements.
Some roles may be better suited to a person in rock-star mode because they require steadiness, accumulated knowledge, and attention to detail that someone in a superstar mode phase might not have the focus or patience for.
People in a superstar mode phase are bad at rock star roles, and people in a rock star phase will hate a superstar role.
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Rock star mode describes people on a gradual growth trajectory — they've mastered their work, love what they do, and find stability and satisfaction in their current role. They're the "Rock of Gibraltar" of your team. Superstar mode describes people on a steep growth trajectory — they need constant new challenges and opportunities to grow rapidly. Neither mode is better than the other; both are essential to a healthy, high-functioning team.
Yes — these modes are not permanent. People move between steep and gradual growth trajectories throughout their careers depending on what's happening in their work and personal lives. A key mistake managers make is putting people in boxes and leaving them there. Always stay curious about where someone is today, not where they were a year ago, and avoid letting your past perception limit the future choices they might make.
Listen carefully to what people tell you they want. Ask yourself three questions: What is their desire to grow? What is their demonstrated ability to take on new things? And what does the team need that might support that person's growth? The answers, taken together, will give you a strong signal about whether someone is in rock star or superstar mode right now.
According to Radical Candor, people in superstar mode tend to perform poorly in rock star roles because those roles require steadiness, accumulated knowledge, and patience they may not have right now. Conversely, people in rock star mode will be unhappy and unfulfilled in a superstar role that demands constant change. Mismatching people to roles leads to disengagement, poor performance, and ultimately contributes to turnover.
Managers tend to project their own current mode onto their team. If you're in superstar mode, you may unconsciously expect — or even pressure — everyone around you to want rapid growth too, and view people in rock star mode as less ambitious or less valuable. Radical Candor warns against this bias explicitly: don't view rock star mode employees as "lesser mortals." Recognizing your own bias is the first step to managing growth trajectories fairly.
No. Radical Candor is clear that steep growth is not narrowly defined as promotion or moving into management. Many individual contributors stay on a steep growth trajectory their entire careers by continually learning new skills or deepening existing ones. Steep growth is really about having an increased impact over time — it's broader than a title change and applies equally to managers and individual contributors alike.
Three ways to put this into practice.
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