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Etiquette at Work (People Forgot How to People) 6 | 9

Sixty percent of employers will reportedly send employees to “office etiquette” training in 2024. Whether it’s folks returning to the office after years of working remotely, or recent college grads without office experience — apparently people don’t know how to act around one another anymore. The team discusses the impact of decreased human interactions and the need to establish office behavior norms. Kim, Brandi and Jason also emphasize the importance of open communication and creating explicit norms, especially in hybrid and remote work environments. And if you work in person, don't touch other people's keyboards or drop Dorito crumbs onto their desks.


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@champagnecruze Welcome to virtual office etiquette class! —Which one should I do next? #generations #corporate #workhumor #relateable ♬ Monkeys Spinning Monkeys - Kevin MacLeod & Kevin The Monkey

 
 

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*Our robot makes some mistakes—listen to the episode for a 100% accurate account of Kim and Amy's conversation.

The conversation explores the challenges of workplace etiquette and respect in the modern world. It discusses the impact of decreased interactions and the need to establish norms for behavior in the office. The importance of open communication and creating explicit norms is emphasized, especially in hybrid and remote work environments.

The conversation also touches on the significance of respecting boundaries and cleanliness in the workplace. Overall, the key takeaway is the need to have conversations and make the implicit explicit to foster a respectful and productive work environment.

The conversation explores the importance of connecting through conversation and the role of technology in facilitating or hindering communication. It also delves into the distinction between bottom-up norm-setting and top-down rulemaking, highlighting the potential biases and inefficiencies of the latter.

The concept of inefficiency as a path to efficiency is discussed, emphasizing the value of having conversations to foster understanding and long-term effectiveness. The conversation concludes with practical tips for implementing radical candor and a checklist for resolving conflicts about workplace norms.

Top Takeaways

  • Establishing norms for behavior in the workplace is crucial for fostering respect and productivity.
  • Open communication and discussions are essential for creating explicit norms and addressing challenges in the office.
  • Respecting boundaries, cleanliness, and different work styles are important aspects of workplace etiquette.
  • In hybrid and remote work environments, it is crucial to consider time zones and find ways to recreate social interactions.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction

00:44 Lack of Etiquette in the Workplace

02:08 Decreased Interactions in the Modern World

03:04 Respect as the Key

05:08 Challenges of Returning to the Office

08:07 Navigating Social Interactions

09:02 Respecting Boundaries in an Open Office

10:27 Creating Norms for Office Spaces

11:26 Accommodating Different Work Styles

12:10 The Importance of Norms over Rules

13:58 Having Conversations to Establish Norms

14:54 The Challenge of Remote Work

16:39 Respecting Cleanliness in the Workplace

19:30 Setting Norms for Hybrid Teams

20:55 Managing Time Zones and Communication

23:45 Creating Explicit Norms for Remote Work

27:10 Encouraging Open Communication

32:21 Addressing Time Zone Challenges

35:21 Recreating Social Interactions in Remote Work

37:42 Making the Implicit Explicit

39:18 The Goal of Radical Candor: Connecting Through Conversation

40:21 Bottoms Up Norm Setting vs Top Down Rulemaking

41:21 Inefficiency as a Path to Efficiency

43:31 Radical Candor Checklist

Radical Candor Podcast Checklist

Radical Candor Podcast Etiquette at Work

  1. Don’t forget to Care Personally. You don’t have to make it a big thing. Give people guidance about office respect using the 2-minute impromptu conversation.
  2. Establish norms for different spaces in the office to maximize respect and eliminate unnecessary chaos and conflict.
  3. Have a walk and talk — we process information better when we’re moving.

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The Radical Candor Podcast is based on the book Radical Candor: Be A Kickass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity by Kim Scott.

Episodes are written and produced by Brandi Neal with script editing by Amy Sandler. The show features Radical Candor co-founders Kim Scott and Jason Rosoff and is hosted by Amy Sandler. Nick Carissimi is our audio engineer.

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FAQs

Why are so many companies sending employees to office etiquette training in 2024?

According to the episode, 60% of employers plan to send employees to office etiquette training in 2024. The main drivers are years of remote work that reduced in-person social practice, and a wave of recent college grads who entered the workforce without traditional office experience. Decreased human interaction over time means many people simply haven't had the chance to develop — or maintain — the unspoken social skills that offices require. The result is a workplace where basic norms around cleanliness, communication, and respect feel unclear to a lot of people.

What's the difference between setting office norms and making top-down rules?

The Radical Candor team draws a clear distinction: top-down rulemaking is imposed by leadership and can carry hidden biases and create resentment, while bottoms-up norm-setting involves the team collaboratively agreeing on how they want to work together. Norms feel owned rather than mandated, which makes people far more likely to follow them. The key is having open conversations where everyone has a voice — especially important in hybrid and remote environments where different work styles and time zones add complexity.

How should managers handle office etiquette issues without making it a big deal?

The podcast recommends leaning on the Radical Candor principle of Caring Personally. You don't need a formal meeting or HR intervention — a quick, 2-minute impromptu conversation is often enough. Address the behavior directly and respectfully, focusing on the specific issue rather than the person's character. The goal is to make the implicit explicit: if something is bothering you or affecting the team, say so kindly and clearly before it festers into a bigger conflict.

How do you establish etiquette norms for hybrid or remote teams?

For hybrid and remote teams, the episode emphasizes that you can't rely on people picking up norms organically the way they might in a shared office. Instead, leaders should proactively create explicit norms around things like meeting availability, response times, time zone considerations, and how to recreate social interactions virtually. Have team conversations to co-create these norms rather than dictating them. Making the implicit explicit is the core principle — don't assume everyone shares the same assumptions about how remote work should function.

Why is inefficiency sometimes a path to efficiency in the workplace?

The team discusses how taking time for conversations — which can feel slow or unproductive in the moment — actually builds the mutual understanding that makes teams more effective long-term. Skipping those conversations to save time often leads to recurring conflicts, misaligned expectations, and etiquette breakdowns that cost far more time to fix later. Investing a few minutes in a candid discussion upfront is more efficient overall than repeatedly dealing with the fallout from unspoken norms.

What are some practical tips from the episode for better workplace etiquette?

The Radical Candor checklist from this episode includes three actionable tips:

  • Care Personally: Address etiquette issues with a quick, low-key 2-minute impromptu conversation rather than letting problems build up.
  • Establish space-specific norms: Different areas of the office (open desks, conference rooms, break rooms) may need different norms — define them together as a team.
  • Try a walk and talk: Research shows people process information better when moving, so walking conversations can actually be more productive than sitting across a desk.

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