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Radical Candor from a School Principal

One of our podcast listeners, Nadia, wrote in to share this story with us and gave us permission to share with you as well. It’s such a great story about advice that Nadia received years ago, that has stayed with her all this time. We’ve re-written her story here:

When I was in middle school, so about 15 years old, I was chairperson of the Middle School Council. Each week I met with the principal of my school, Adam Heath, to discuss the agenda for the upcoming council meeting. For me, they always felt like meetings that I had to do just to check a box -- they didn’t seem that valuable.

One meeting, the principal noticed that I was upset about something and asked me what was bothering me. I was taken aback that he had noticed -- in that moment I realized that he really cared about me personally. So I opened up and told him how one boy at school had been calling me Mrs. Bell, as if I were a teacher. This upset me because I already felt alienated from my peers just by being in a leadership position. I didn’t want to be thought of as patronizing or old.

Mr. Heath responded candidly that leaders are often lonely, even the good ones. He also said that I shouldn’t fret about being perceived as a leader -- the very fact that I was worried about being patronizing suggested I wouldn’t become so. He said that invariably our worst traits are instead the ones of which we are totally ignorant.

It was a funny kind of praise and advice bound up into one, but I've never forgotten it.

Nadia, we love this story. Thank you so much for sharing. Shout out to Nadia’s principal Adam Heath (now teaching in Australia, but was in NZ when Nadia was at school) for giving such impactful and lasting advice!

This praise both showed that he Cared Personally and also Challenged Nadia Directly to continue being a great leader.

Russ says all the time, it's lonely at the top. Kim says that as a manager you're often an emotional punching bag for your team. And as we talked about with Dick Costolo in episode 3 of our podcast, it's a bad idea to lead by trying to be liked. So we agree, it can be a lonely existence as a leader.

We also like the note that when you're worried about becoming something you are less likely to become that thing. A lot of times we even over-correct!

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FAQs

Why is leadership often a lonely experience?

Leadership can be isolating because the role itself creates distance between you and the people you lead. As Russ Laraway often says, "it's lonely at the top." Kim Scott adds that managers frequently become emotional punching bags for their teams. When you're in a position of authority — even as a 15-year-old student council chair — peers may see you differently, which can feel alienating. Recognizing this loneliness as a normal part of leadership, rather than a personal failing, is an important mindset shift.

What does it mean to Care Personally and Challenge Directly in a non-work context?

Radical Candor's core framework — Care Personally and Challenge Directly — applies far beyond the workplace. In Nadia's story, her principal noticed she was upset and asked about it (Care Personally), then gave her honest, direct feedback that leaders are often lonely and that her self-awareness was actually a strength (Challenge Directly). This combination — genuine human concern paired with honest, useful feedback — is the essence of Radical Candor, whether you're a manager, a teacher, or a school principal.

How does worrying about a negative trait help prevent you from developing it?

Principal Adam Heath pointed out that the traits we should fear most are the ones we're completely unaware of. If you're actively worried about being patronizing, overbearing, or arrogant, that self-awareness naturally drives you to check your behavior and course-correct. The blind spots — the things you never think to question — are far more dangerous. This idea aligns with the Radical Candor principle that self-awareness is a foundational quality of good leadership.

Is it a bad idea to try to be liked as a leader?

Yes — trying to be liked as a leader tends to backfire. As discussed in episode 3 of the Radical Candor podcast with Dick Costolo, leading by seeking approval often means avoiding hard conversations and withholding honest feedback. That's Ruinous Empathy in Radical Candor terms. True respect from your team comes from being honest and caring, not from being popular. Short-term likability frequently undermines long-term trust and team performance.

How can managers show they Care Personally without being intrusive?

Caring Personally starts with simply paying attention — noticing when someone seems off and asking an open, genuine question, just as Principal Heath did when he noticed Nadia was upset. You don't need to pry; you just need to signal that you see the whole person, not just their output. Creating a consistent one-on-one meeting rhythm, following up on things people share, and listening without immediately jumping to solutions are all practical ways to show you genuinely care.

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