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When They Win You Win With Russ Laraway 4 | 7

When They Win You Win With Russ Laraway 4 | 7

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On this episode of the Radical Candor Podcast, we're taking a break from our GSD Wheel series and welcoming back to the podcast Russ Laraway, author of the book When They Win, You Win: Being a Great Manager is Simpler Than You Think, coming out June 7, 2022. You can pre-order it now! You likely know Russ best as the OG co-host with Kim of season one of the Radical Candor Podcast. Russ is currently chief people officer at Goodwater Capital; and also is the creator of Career Conversations; which is covered in Radical Candor, and to which Russ dedicates nearly 100 pages of his new book. Kim and Russ discuss how to make every manager (measurably) great and to rid the world of assclown managers everywhere.

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Russ explains how the world has conspired to confuse the average manager. Despite near-limitless resources — books, blogs, podcasts — that purport to teach us how to be great managers, the reality is that managers globally aren’t really any better than they were 30 years ago. (The evidence is this: as more evidence emerges that the manager is most responsible for employee engagement, global engagement is still at just 15% and 33% in the U.S.)

Managers are struggling due to a lack of regular formal check-ins on how they are doing as a manager. Their bosses have almost no context on how they are leading their people and therefore can struggle to coach them. Kim and Russ discuss: 

  • Why managers are failing, and no one is helping.
  • What we need is to learn to lead in a way that measurably and predictably leads to more engaged employees and better business results.
  • We need a simpler and more coherent leadership standard, something with quantitative backing that shows it works.
  • People just want to do great work and be totally psyched while doing it.
  • People deserve to be led well.
  • The art of Continue Coaching.

Pre-Order the New Book from Career Conversations Expert Russ Laraway

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In When They Win, You Win, Russ Laraway, the chief people officer at Goodwater Capital who also developed Career Conversations, provides a simple, coherent, and complete leadership standard that teaches managers how to lead in a way that measurably and predictably delivers more engaged employees and better business results and show organizational planners how to make their managers great!

The book identifies The Big 3, or three key elements: clear direction-setting, frequent coaching and active engagement with employees on their long-term career goals. Russ also dedicates around 100 pages of the book to Career Conversations! Pre-order now >>  +  Order your 'No Assclowns' merch >>

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Key Questions Covered

Who is Russ Laraway and what is his connection to Radical Candor?

Russ Laraway is the original co-host of the Radical Candor Podcast alongside Kim Scott in season one. He is currently chief people officer at Goodwater Capital and the creator of Career Conversations — a framework that is covered in Kim Scott's book Radical Candor. Russ is also the author of When They Win, You Win: Being a Great Manager is Simpler Than You Think, which dedicates nearly 100 pages to Career Conversations.

What is the main argument of Russ Laraway's book When They Win, You Win?

Russ argues that great management doesn't have to be complicated. Despite an abundance of resources — books, podcasts, and blogs — global employee engagement remains stuck at around 15% worldwide and 33% in the U.S., roughly where it was 30 years ago. His book proposes a simpler, coherent, and measurable leadership standard built around "The Big 3": clear direction-setting, frequent coaching, and active engagement with employees' long-term career goals. When managers consistently do these three things, they predictably drive higher engagement and better business results.

What are 'The Big 3' management behaviors Russ Laraway identifies?

According to Russ Laraway, The Big 3 are the three key behaviors that distinguish great managers:

  • Clear direction-setting — making sure employees know what's expected of them.
  • Frequent coaching — regular check-ins and feedback to help people grow.
  • Active career engagement — having meaningful conversations about employees' long-term career goals.

Russ argues that consistently practicing these three behaviors measurably and predictably leads to more engaged employees and stronger business outcomes.

Why are so many managers still failing despite the abundance of management resources?

Russ Laraway argues that the world has conspired to confuse the average manager. There is no shortage of books, blogs, or podcasts on management, yet global engagement remains at a dismal 15%. A key reason is the lack of regular, formal check-ins on how managers are actually performing as leaders. Their own bosses often have little context on how they're leading their teams, making it nearly impossible to coach them effectively. Without a simple, coherent, and quantitatively-backed leadership standard, managers are left without clear guidance on what "good" actually looks like.

What is a Career Conversation, and why does it matter for managers?

Career Conversations, a framework created by Russ Laraway, are structured dialogues between a manager and an employee focused on the employee's long-term career aspirations — not just their current role or immediate performance. The goal is for managers to understand what truly motivates their team members and to actively support their growth. Russ dedicates nearly 100 pages of When They Win, You Win to this topic, and the framework is also covered in Kim Scott's Radical Candor. Done well, Career Conversations are one of the most powerful tools a manager has for driving engagement and retention.

What does 'When They Win, You Win' mean as a management philosophy?

The title captures a core truth about great management: a manager's success is inseparable from the success of their team. When employees are engaged, growing, and doing great work, the manager — and the broader organization — wins too. Russ Laraway's philosophy reframes management away from control or output-chasing and toward genuinely investing in people. The idea is that people deserve to be led well, and when they are, better business results follow naturally. It's a both/and proposition: employee wellbeing and business performance rise together.

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