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Podcast Episode 17: Promotion Schmomotion

Podcast Episode 17: Promotion Schmomotion

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Everyone loves promotions, right? Well...not so fast. Kim and Russ talk about how promotions might be hurting you and your team and suggest some other ways to think about recognizing high performers.

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This Episode at a Glance

Promotions, the kind that mean an increase in scope or responsibility, are not always the best way to recognize and reward your top performers. This episode dives into the dangers of promotion obsession for your team.

Kim starts the episode with a story about someone who worked for her, Derek. Derek was a great customer support rep who kept the company's customers very happy.

Forget about Net Promoter Score. When your customers are sending you baked goods, you know you're doing something right.

When it came time to hire a leader for the Customer Support team, Kim offered the job to Derek. But he declined; he wasn't interested in taking on a larger role. Kim wrote Derek off as un-ambitious.

I was sort of writing my own ambitions into his story.

Kim hired someone for the Customer Support who had big ambitions, who wanted to be CEO. Unfortunately, she soon found out that this new leader's approach didn't work. It led to Derek's leaving, the baked goods stopped coming, and the business suffered as a result. Kim and Russ talk about ways to avoid this type of mistake and how you can recognize high performers with different values and ambitions.

Next, Kim and Russ answer a listener question about promoting someone when that promotion would just be a title change. Kim and Russ warn against promotions that pander to people's egos, remind listeners that people on steep growth trajectories are likely to move on, and emphasize that what those people need is real growth and new challenges. Avoid creating a promotion obsessed culture. Their advice for this listener's question is to revisit Episode 5: Career Conversations and figure out how to help this high performer develop their skills.

The Candor Checklist

When thinking about promotions, remember to Care Personally and Challenge Directly. Here are some tips you can start with right away:

Tip 1: Learn your team members' values and dreams.

Tip 2: Offer public recognition or a "guru" role.

Tip 3: Set growth expectations.

For all the details on these tips, listen to the episode!

Related Resources

Read up on some of the background info covered in this episode.

Key Questions Covered

Why are promotions not always the best way to reward high performers?

Promotions that increase scope or responsibility assume every top performer wants more responsibility — but that's often not true. As Kim Scott illustrates with the story of Derek, a star customer support rep, some people excel precisely because they love the work they're doing at their current level. Forcing or defaulting to promotions can cause you to lose great contributors, harm team morale, and even hurt your business. Recognizing what each person actually values is far more effective than a one-size-fits-all promotion culture.

What is the danger of projecting your own ambitions onto your team members?

When managers assume everyone wants to climb the ladder, they risk misreading their team members' motivations. Kim Scott calls this out directly — she initially wrote off Derek as "un-ambitious" because he didn't want a leadership role, when in reality he was deeply ambitious about doing his current job exceptionally well. This kind of projection leads to bad decisions, like hiring the wrong person for a leadership role, which can cause high performers to leave and ultimately hurt the team and business.

How can I recognize and reward high performers who don't want a promotion?

The Radical Candor approach suggests three practical alternatives to promotion: first, take time to learn your team members' actual values and dreams so you understand what motivates them. Second, offer meaningful public recognition or create a "guru" role that honors their expertise without forcing them into management. Third, set growth expectations that challenge them within their current scope. The key is Care Personally — understand what the individual wants, rather than assuming a title change is the reward they're after.

What should I do if a promotion would just be a title change with no real new responsibility?

Kim and Russ warn against hollow promotions that pander to ego without offering real growth. If a promotion is purely cosmetic, it's likely a short-term fix that won't keep a high performer engaged for long — especially those on steep growth trajectories who are likely to move on anyway. Instead, focus on genuine skill development and new challenges. They recommend revisiting career conversations (as covered in Episode 5) to understand what meaningful growth looks like for that specific person.

What is a 'promotion-obsessed culture' and why should I avoid it?

A promotion-obsessed culture is one where advancement in title or scope is treated as the primary — or only — measure of success and recognition. This mindset can be damaging because it incentivizes the wrong behaviors, creates pressure on people to take on roles they're not suited for, and causes you to overlook the immense value of people who are rockstars in their current roles. Avoiding this culture means broadening how you define and reward excellence on your team.

How does the Radical Candor framework apply to decisions about promotions?

Radical Candor's two core principles — Care Personally and Challenge Directly — are both essential when thinking about promotions. Caring Personally means taking the time to understand each team member's unique values, dreams, and definition of success, rather than assuming everyone wants the same thing. Challenging Directly means being honest about whether a promotion is truly in someone's best interest, rather than defaulting to it as the path of least resistance or as a way to avoid a harder career conversation.

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